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Posted: 16 Oct 2008 23:41
Some of the interesting moments in MadMen come when we get a chance to see how much things have changed since the 60s.
When Betty's daughter was running around with a dry cleaning bag over her head, she got yelled at, but not for playing inside a reputed vortex of death. She got yelled at for possibly leaving the clothes that were in the bag on the floor to get wrinkled. When the Drapers went for a picnic at an idyllic roadside spot, they left all their litter behind without a second thought. Those are just the two examples that come to mind. What else have you noticed? |
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Posted: 17 Oct 2008 03:26
I love how all the kids bop around inside the car while its driving. Betty driving without a care that they will go flying out the windshield. People use to put small kids in laundry baskets in the back seat to keep them safe and secure.
The first time the divorcee came over with Glen and Don said “come on outside there’s a BB gun.” And when Rodger came over to the Drapers and got drunk they put him out at the end of the evening. As he was pulling away in his car Don had to yell out “Lights!” so the drunkard would have them on as he ping ponged down the street. |
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Posted: 20 Oct 2008 21:15
im glad you started this topic peggy...
Betty locking sally in the closet as a form of discipline? wow! |
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Posted: 20 Oct 2008 22:41
It is shocking to see how the men treat the women in the office, smack their fannies, and call them "honey" and "sweetheart." "Sex discrimination" was not coined yet...
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Posted: 21 Oct 2008 21:49
There are a lot of little things (beside three martini lunches) that put Mad Men squarely in the early 60's. I was born in 1961, and can remember a lot of these things holding over a few years.
For instance, the churchkey can opener hanging on a string in Don's garage, next to his beer fridge. No pull tabs! The same scene with the dry cleaning bag, and the obviously pregnant women drinking and smoking like chimneys. In the "BB gun" episode, a kid goes running through the house and knocks something over. An adult thinks nothing of smacking a kid not his own. And his father makes the kid apologize to the adult, who says something like, "Go tell your mother to clean this up." No seat belts, ever. Would've been handy when Don rolled his car. A bar in every office. Nice! Chasing the secretaries around the desks? Many of those women went to work looking for husbands, so they wouldn't have to work. Poor Salvatore stuck in the closet, and afraid to admit the truth even to himself. In the last episode, Sally wants to call her dad. Betty says no, it's long distance. She was lying, but man, my folks would have rather cut off an arm than pay for a long distance call! |
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Posted: 22 Oct 2008 00:19
We haven't talked here yet about fashion and the early-60s dress code.
For women: skirts and dresses at the office. The idea of a woman wearing trousers/slacks/pants to work or to school at that time would have been scandalous (my high school in NJ changed its dress code in 1969 to allow females to wear pants). Hats and gloves were worn in church. Also hats and gloves out on the street for older women like Alice Cooper and Mona Sterling and more traditional younger women like Trudy Campbell and Peggy. It's only the fashion forward like Joan who don't wear hat & gloves to work. For men: suits, ties and hats. The custom of men wearing hats faded with JFK who didn't wear one. The two men we see at SC who don't conform to the male dress code are Smitty and Kurt, who express youth and new ideas. |
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Posted: 22 Oct 2008 00:50
In response to adgal:
I totally agree. Also notice how the work environment has drastically changed. It was a regular saloon at Sterling Cooper. Everyone drank during work. Also I now see why we have H.R Departments. Joan getting passed over, etc. |
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Posted: 22 Oct 2008 19:45
Being a catholic, I cracked up when I saw all of the women with head coverings on during the church scenes. I remember my mother would put a doilie on my my head to attend church. What I did not notice during the church scenes is if the priest spoke Latin which was the language of choice in the catholic church during the 1960's.
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