im really concerned!
did they get rid of him?
this show has so many layers, i always have to watch it twice, and i love it all over again!
did i see correctly also that ken cosgrove is getting married on the invite on don's desk?
am i crazy, i was actually disappointed like i knew him or something, i have a slight crush!
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I think Duck is gone. He engineered a corporate power play to be "boss of" Don, but he lost the play when he didn't have all his facts in order. He figured that Don would not be able to quit because he had a contract, and contracts at that level always have non-competition clauses.  It shocked the s--t out of him when Don said he 1) didn't plan to stick around, and 2) didn't have a contract.  Then Duck starts to lose his cool, get angry and dismissive of Don, and the other guys, knowing that Don is a critical part of the success of SC - look at Duck as expendable.  Remember "Oh Well he cold neverhold his liquor" ? I think that was MM code for bye bye.  Thought anyone??

I think Duck is gone, too. But I wouldn't mind seeing him back at some point.

Yes, Duck shuffled off to Buffalo. Maybe we'll see him at a rival firm.

Duck's back--he's at another agency and he's trying to lure Pete and Peggy to come with him...

Evidently Duck's gone off to one of the Jewish agencies alluded to in the first season, as he invited Pete for a "nosh".

Since it appears his Presidency of SC was extremely short-lived, I think he is either trying to poach the talent he considers most vulnerable to make himself look good to his new employers, or it's a vindictive attack on SC for his inglorious ouster, or both.
I can see why Peggy might think it attractive, as she seems to have hit the glass ceiling at SC, but I'm unsure why Campbell is hesitating. He's made his displeasure with SC known. Maybe he just doesn't want to hitch his wagon to a loose cannon like Duck?

I am glad to see Duck back, though. He makes for an interesting foil.

Duck’s turtle neck makes him an absolute dead ringer for my favorite ad man Darrin Stephens.  I loved Bewitched as a kid.

Duck is sneaky but I like the fact you know he’s operating for his own self interest.  AND he has vision that Don lacks.   At SC he brought on the ‘young creative’ and knew TV was the future for making money selling time.

I think Peggy should bolt SC.  It will be 1970 before she can be anywhere on par with her male counter parts.  Going to Gray she could double her salary and be given more opportunity as she would be viewed as a ‘find.’  Peggy would be a novelty that would make Gray look progressive with new clients just as the times are a changing.  The only way she could fail is if Duck gets canned for pulling another power move and she’s seen as his loyal minion.

Don didn’t and isn’t going to bat for her.  The thought of her going to another firm isn’t crossing his mind.  Her whole equality speech flew over his head. 

Notice how she and the Brit were offered drinks by Don in his office and neither of them took it?

I slow motioned on the birth certificate.  Betty is 31 years old and was born in New Jersey.  I hope Gene Draper doesn’t misplace his certificate like a certain President born in 1961.

James:  I don't think the dig at Obama was called for.  That little thing about misplacing the birth certificate.  Obama is in for at least three more years and I wish those who continue to promote the nuttiness of the eternal birth certificate issue would give it a rest. Even if you were saying it in jest, it's not particularly funny and doesn't belong here.  Not really.

I do agree that Peggy will never prosper at Sterling Cooper.  She and Pete should leave pronto but not over to Duck's side. Neither one will ever be among the inner circle nor are they valued by Roger (who contributes nothing at all to SC) or Don (who lately has played the same role.  Contributing nothing.) Duck is just so transparent and he was always scum.  He obviously still is.

I agree with Indiangiver about the birth certificate remark. The think I like about Mad Men Lounge is that posts stay on topic. Please keep it that way!

Sorry - The THING I like, not THINK.

Re: politics - amen, begone to the "non-Mad Men" forum.  Dramatics, not politics here.

re: Roger contributing nothing.  Not sure about that - I read Roger's presence in the show as having less to do with revealing the "business" side of SC and more to do with demonstrating a certain set of personality and character traits.  Today, for example, someone might say that Roger is suffering a mid-life crisis.  Then, they would have said "there's no fool like an old fool".

As Don put it when they pulled Pete in over the Admiral thing, many times whether a customer chooses you it's not because of the strength of your ideas or the quality of your product, but whether or not they like you.  Roger's business function may be nothing more than to be the guy who manages that relationship with the prospective and existing customer by getting them to "like" him (and by extension, SC).  Plus there is the aspect of the relationship he or his family has with Cooper that hasn't yet been explored. 

There would probably be little dramatic potential in anything Roger does in a "business" sense - I'm thinking here of the "Carousel" presentation Don gave - which is probably one reason we don't see him doing much of it.  There's only so much eating, boozing, gambling, etc. you can watch someone do unless there is some advancement of the plot (and in Mad Men, EVERYTHING counts, there are no wasted moments).  Even if he is a protected "legacy", my guess is that if he were completely non-productive, the Brits would have sacked him already.

Indiangiver

Other MM blogs had comments about Grandpa Gene looking and acting like John McCain losing his marbles.  I didn’t feel the need to go ballistic and create a post to tell them what they said was “uncalled for.”   You need to stop being so hypersensitive.

One of the interesting aspects of MM is you get a retrospective look at the world before the electronic revolution.  How basic things were done, memos, report cards, filing etc.

MM makes plenty of political references justify anyone to make a passing comment on what is current front page news with imagery and comments from the show.

I think Obama was born in Hawaii, it is interesting that he does not have a copy of his birth certificate nor the dept. of records and that it and that it has become such a subject of much debate.   The subject of birth certificates is in the current storyline and may become more so if Don ever has to apply for a passport etc.   

I am sorry if these observations are too “political” for you to stomach.  Please don’t attempt to dictate to me what I should post…”really”

I love Duck's comment about Pete and Peggy "having a secrect relationship."  They looked like deer in headlights!!